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Information for Non-EU citizens looking to move to Ireland

August 3, 2018 by Meg 19 Comments

This post is targeted to the Non-EU citizens looking to move over to Ireland. Think of it as a cheat sheet of tips you will need to know, to help you move over to Ireland. Perhaps it will answer some of your burning questions.I get about 2 – 3 emails a day from people all over the world, looking to move themselves or their families over to Ireland. I love that they feel at ease asking me questions, and I always try to give the most honest of advice. The reality is that moving to Ireland is not as easy as it looks. There are a lot of different circumstances, or situations you might find yourself in. If you are on an EU/UK/Irish citizen – basically none of the paperwork admin is required, thus making it very easy to move over.

The emails I get are mostly from people in a similar situation to how we were –people looking to move over to Ireland on a non-EU passport. The email requests are not only limited to South Africans – I get citizens from USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, as well as other African countries, including South Africa. Most of the questions are specific to their unique situations.

I have to be honest, I don’t usually respond if the email is just ‘how can I move over to Ireland’ – because there is no nice way of saying – through hard work and a lot of money and huge amount of effort and patience. Those people I think are looking for an easy way over; one email to a complete stranger is not going to make that happen unfortunately.

I also get a lot of emails from people who are currently living in Ireland, trying to make it work, and stressing about waiting for employment permits, finding a rental and just trying to make this life in Ireland work for them as they had once hoped it would.

I don’t say this all to sound negative, or to try and dissuade people from trying to move over to Ireland. I say this all because – you are not alone. There are plenty of people in your exact situation, and for some it works out and they move onto the next worry of making it work in a foreign country. For others it doesn’t work out and they either make the decision to try again or they stop trying and move onto trying somewhere else.

This post is targeted to the Non-EU citizens looking to move over to Ireland. Think of it as a cheat sheet of tips you will need to know, to help you move over to Ireland. Perhaps it will answer some of your burning questions.

  • You will need a job before you come over.

The reality is that not everyone will be able to find employment here in Ireland.  You can use recruiters, however if you are wishing to apply for a general or spousal dependent work permit – then you may very well find that not many recruiters will get back to you. This is because these roles can generally be filled faster by local candidates. If you are applying for a critical skills work permit, then you might get a recruiter to help you, because your skills are specialised and in demand. Please check the critical skills list here, and be very specific to your skillset as you will need to substantiate that you have the skills required under critical skills. Additionally you should check the list of roles you do not need a work permit. Unfortunately if you are on a non-EU passport and not a spouse of a person holding a work permit, you will need a work permit to work in Ireland, which means these roles are not available for you to fill. For more on work permits, read this post I wrote.

  • You can only apply for a work permit if you have a job offer

You will need a job offer before you apply for a work permit; this means that the work permit is tied to a particular employer. It cannot be transferred to another employer and you cannot move employers within the first 12 months.

  • It is difficult to find an employer willing to go through the application process.

This is because current processing dates for all types of work permits takes over 3 months. Your work permit can be submitted online via yourself, your employer, or a recruitment agent. You can then check the status of your application online either by using your application reference or by checking the processing dates. Application processing goes by date submitted, and is irrespective of the type of work permit you are applying for. If your employer is a trusted partner then the processing times may be quicker, current processing times for trusted partners is over 6 weeks.

  • The thing about spousal dependent employment permits

You are only able to apply for a spousal dependent employment permit if your spouse holds a critical skills work permit or is a researcher. A spousal dependent employment permit is different to a spousal visa. The spousal visa is for a spouse to join their partner – it does not mean that they can work in Ireland.

  • Certain countries can enter Ireland as a tourist for up to 90 days.

To find out if you are able to enter the country with no visa, check this link. This is handy for people looking to see what Ireland is like, to travel around Ireland and to see if Ireland would be a place you would like to live in one day. However….

  • It is illegal to come over as a tourist (stay for 90 days) and look for employment.

Just don’t do be that person. Additionally if you apply for a work permit whilst in Ireland as a tourist, you risk your work permit being declined and being kicked out of the country permanently. If you intend to do some research and look into moving over, you can come over for 90 days but you cannot work without a work permit, and you cannot apply for a work permit whilst in the country as a tourist.

  • If you are married to an EU, UK or Irish passport holder

Then you are classed as one of the lucky ones. It means that you are able to come over without the need for work permits or visas. You will also have it that much easier than the rest of us coming over on SA or non EU passports. I think it’s important for those people to be mindful that their situation is entirely different to the rest of us.

So there you have it, my most asked questions all laid out in one handy little post. It is often seen as easy to move to Ireland, when the sad reality is that not everyone will be able to move over successfully or without a series of hurdles to jump over. This is not to say that it is impossible to move over, plenty of people move over every day, it just requires non-EU passport holders to have a bit more grit, a bit more research and possible a boat load of patience to navigate all the steps you need to take to make it happen.

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This post is targeted to the Non-EU citizens looking to move over to Ireland. Think of it as a cheat sheet of tips you will need to know, to help you move over to Ireland. Perhaps it will answer some of your burning questions.

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  1. Donald says

    August 4, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    thank you so much for this very helpful information you provide. God bless

    Reply
    • Meg says

      August 4, 2018 at 5:52 pm

      Thanks Donald, hope it helps!

      Reply
  2. Cronje Oosthuizen says

    August 5, 2018 at 3:15 pm

    Hi Meg,
    I love to read your blog, I’m in PE. We are exploring the Irish idea….
    Question: is there a cut-off age for immigration to Ireland (Also in terms of having enough time to save for retirement, we are 45 now)?

    Reply
    • Meg says

      August 5, 2018 at 3:34 pm

      Hey Cronje, thanks for reading the blog! To my knowledge there is no cut off age for immigration to Ireland, retirement savings is entirely up to you. If you are looking to retire in Ireland you would need to prove you have enough income/savings to support yourself. This is reviewed yearly and the rules around this can change.

      Reply
  3. Bulelani says

    August 6, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Thanks Meg, this makes sense.and it will help with my move. I am considering Ireland because my teenage daughter will be able to transfer to the same school she is currently enrolled in here in SA.

    Reply
  4. Amrita Ghosh says

    August 22, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    Many Thanks Meg for all the valuable information . I keep reading all your blogs and love them 🙂

    I have small question regarding GNIB.

    I have arrived in Dublin 1 month back . My husband holds a critical skills permit and I joined him here on spousal visa. I received the GNIB card which remarks ” Cannot work or engage in business ”. But my understanding is that since my husband has CSP , I can apply for spousal work permit if and only if I have a job offer in hand.

    And thereafter I can get my current GNIB card updated. Am I understanding correctly?

    Regards
    Amrita

    Reply
    • Meg says

      August 22, 2018 at 1:23 pm

      Hey Amrita, thanks so much for reading the blog ? yes you should have a stamp 3; but because you husband has a CSP, you can apply for a spousal dependent work permit. You will need a job offer before you can apply. Then once you have the work permit, you go back and update your GNIB to stamp 1

      Reply
  5. Sandy Singh says

    September 27, 2018 at 9:49 am

    Hello Meg, I Sandy from India and I wanna settle in Ireland. As a tourist can I apply for work permit their. Plz explains. Thanks

    Reply
    • Meg says

      September 27, 2018 at 10:55 am

      Hi Sandy, unfortunately it is illegal to come over on a tourist visa and try apply for a work permit. If you do, you are likely to have your work permit application declined. Just a note that work permit applications are taking up to 15 weeks to process, so you would need to keep this in mind when applying for jobs here.

      Reply
  6. Ryan says

    October 4, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Hi Meg thank you for the article!!!
    My wife and I are looking to move to Ireland from South Africa she has a uk passport. You mentioned that I wouldn’t need a work permit or visa is there any way you could elaborate a bit more in what I need to do. Do I just arrive ?

    Thank you again for all the info your a rock star

    Reply
    • Meg says

      October 4, 2018 at 12:35 pm

      Hi Ryan, sorry I am not sure what the process would be for you. I just know it will be easier! Check out citizen information, there should be info there!

      Reply
  7. Ralmar says

    October 9, 2018 at 8:07 am

    Hi Megan

    Just a quick question regarding it being illegal to come over as a tourist and applying for a work permit.

    If your partner has a work permit and you come to Ireland with them and apply to live with them based on your relationship(de facto), will you be able to apply for a work permit then?

    Reply
    • Meg says

      October 16, 2018 at 11:10 am

      If you are applying to live with your spouse, then you won’t enter as a tourist. You will get a stamp in your passport saying how long you can remain in Ireland however you won’t be allowed to work until you have a work permit.

      Reply
      • Ralmar Marsh says

        November 15, 2018 at 1:32 pm

        Thank you for your response.

        Reply
  8. Roxy says

    October 25, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    Hi Megan
    My boyfriend and I are looking to move to Ireland from South Africa. Your information is golden!
    Did you visit the Irish embassy in Pretoria before relocating to get all the information/forms, or did you do your own research online?
    Thanks again for the info!

    Reply
    • Meg says

      October 25, 2018 at 1:13 pm

      Hi Roxy, we mostly did our research online. We knew of two other couples through our circle of friends who had made the move and we asked got in touch with them for other questions. I started the blog because of the lack of info so I am happy to hear the info helps!

      Reply
  9. Angela says

    December 3, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Hi! We have a different situation… we are both employed with a company in the US as 100% remote employees and can live anywhere in the world that has internet. Our income isn’t a problem in any situation I’ve encountered that has income limits…

    Since we have employment and a good income and do not need to be employed in Ireland, do you know of a way we can apply to stay long term? We just want to do 2 years without having to leave for 3 months at a time.

    Reply
  10. Marelie says

    January 17, 2020 at 10:07 am

    Hi, what advise would you have if I get a job in Ireland but my husband is a physio and on the list of ‘Ineligible occupations’?

    Reply
    • Meg says

      August 6, 2020 at 10:02 am

      If he needs a work permit to stay in Ireland and work, and his job is on the ineligible list then unfortunately he wont be able to work in Ireland as a physio.

      Reply

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